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		<title>By: Terrorist not really a terrorist says loony psycho terrorist friendly terrorist judge &#171; The Squat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrorist not really a terrorist says loony psycho terrorist friendly terrorist judge &#171; The Squat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] released him knowing full well that he intends, following one lawyer&#8217;s site&#8217;s advice, to assassinate Tony Blair, the Queen, all of Parliament and the every child at the school for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] released him knowing full well that he intends, following one lawyer&#8217;s site&#8217;s advice, to assassinate Tony Blair, the Queen, all of Parliament and the every child at the school for [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: geeklawyer</title>
		<link>http://blog.geeklawyer.org/2008/02/11/ireprescable-as-ever-geeklawyer-returns/#comment-19508</link>
		<dc:creator>geeklawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"... As I said at “the other place”, put-downs beget put-downs but you can still break the vicious cycle ... "

Stan you seem to be so dim you can't even recall the comments you made one day ago nor the wit to understand the implications of your own inept metaphor. I suppose it comes of having the IQ and memory of a goldfish.

Having thoroughly trashed the arguments and logic of the simian retards such as yourself Simple Sam BliarSycophant et al in that other place it is pointless to continue; Indeed it would be &lt;i&gt;cruel&lt;/i&gt; to humiliate you further. You remind me of the playground wimp having suffered a beating who, when at a suitably safe distance, mutters "I'll get you next time, you see if I don't." Knowing all the while that his yellow streak will never permit it.

As I've told you before you should learn to quit while you're behind. And I must deliver my promise to MsRobisnon not to rattle the  Monkey Cage.

I have concluded that this thread should end since I have no desire to let you humiliate yourself further; frankly I'm embarrassed for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230; As I said at “the other place”, put-downs beget put-downs but you can still break the vicious cycle &#8230; &#8221;</p>
<p>Stan you seem to be so dim you can&#8217;t even recall the comments you made one day ago nor the wit to understand the implications of your own inept metaphor. I suppose it comes of having the IQ and memory of a goldfish.</p>
<p>Having thoroughly trashed the arguments and logic of the simian retards such as yourself Simple Sam BliarSycophant et al in that other place it is pointless to continue; Indeed it would be <i>cruel</i> to humiliate you further. You remind me of the playground wimp having suffered a beating who, when at a suitably safe distance, mutters &#8220;I&#8217;ll get you next time, you see if I don&#8217;t.&#8221; Knowing all the while that his yellow streak will never permit it.</p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve told you before you should learn to quit while you&#8217;re behind. And I must deliver my promise to MsRobisnon not to rattle the  Monkey Cage.</p>
<p>I have concluded that this thread should end since I have no desire to let you humiliate yourself further; frankly I&#8217;m embarrassed for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
		<link>http://blog.geeklawyer.org/2008/02/11/ireprescable-as-ever-geeklawyer-returns/#comment-19507</link>
		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that GL's responses to the latest round of blogging exchanges reminds me of one of those sad stags who have just lost a rutting contest and slouch off emitting the odd and ever fainter bellow in a pitiful attempt to save face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that GL&#8217;s responses to the latest round of blogging exchanges reminds me of one of those sad stags who have just lost a rutting contest and slouch off emitting the odd and ever fainter bellow in a pitiful attempt to save face.</p>
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		<title>By: VM</title>
		<link>http://blog.geeklawyer.org/2008/02/11/ireprescable-as-ever-geeklawyer-returns/#comment-19506</link>
		<dc:creator>VM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My &lt;i&gt;darling&lt;/i&gt; Stan,

It is &lt;i&gt;such&lt;/i&gt; a pleasure to read your &lt;i&gt;stout&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;determined&lt;/i&gt; efforts to prove that Mr Greeklawyer is guilty of &lt;i&gt;high&lt;/i&gt; treason.

I &lt;i&gt;agree&lt;/i&gt; with you. There is &lt;i&gt;no&lt;/i&gt; difference between people like &lt;i&gt;Amery&lt;/i&gt;, who actively supported Hitler and &lt;i&gt;Greeklawyer&lt;/i&gt; who dares to insult St Antoine of &lt;i&gt;Iknowmycauseisjust&lt;/i&gt;. As you point out with such &lt;i&gt;perspicacity&lt;/i&gt;, that is because Amery tried to persuade the British people that they could not win the &lt;i&gt;war&lt;/i&gt;, whilst Greeklawyer has suggested that Blair be &lt;i&gt;asassinated&lt;/i&gt;. On the basis (which, my &lt;i&gt;dear&lt;/i&gt; you do not enunciate entirely &lt;i&gt;clearly&lt;/i&gt;, but which must be &lt;i&gt;implied&lt;/i&gt;) that no one in Greeklawyer's &lt;i&gt;audience&lt;/i&gt; has a sense of:
1. Irony
2. Humour
3. Balance
they are &lt;i&gt;precisely&lt;/i&gt; the same thing. Well &lt;i&gt;done&lt;/i&gt; Stan!

&lt;i&gt;Just&lt;/i&gt; in case you do ever meet a human being, it is as well to &lt;i&gt;remember&lt;/i&gt; that irony, humour and balance is what distinguishes us from the &lt;i&gt;Orang Utans&lt;/i&gt;. But, Stan, providing you keep staring that mirror &lt;i&gt;straight&lt;/i&gt; in the eyes, you have no need to &lt;i&gt;worry&lt;/i&gt;.

Yours, &lt;i&gt;caringly&lt;/i&gt;

VM

P.S. Perhaps you could &lt;i&gt;attempt&lt;/i&gt; to teach little Sam I Am to talk &lt;i&gt;properly&lt;/i&gt;. If he has internet access he &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; should be past the stage of thinking it &lt;i&gt;big&lt;/i&gt; to swear. &lt;i&gt;Do&lt;/i&gt; take your parental responsibilities &lt;i&gt;seriously&lt;/i&gt; Stan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My <i>darling</i> Stan,</p>
<p>It is <i>such</i> a pleasure to read your <i>stout</i> and <i>determined</i> efforts to prove that Mr Greeklawyer is guilty of <i>high</i> treason.</p>
<p>I <i>agree</i> with you. There is <i>no</i> difference between people like <i>Amery</i>, who actively supported Hitler and <i>Greeklawyer</i> who dares to insult St Antoine of <i>Iknowmycauseisjust</i>. As you point out with such <i>perspicacity</i>, that is because Amery tried to persuade the British people that they could not win the <i>war</i>, whilst Greeklawyer has suggested that Blair be <i>asassinated</i>. On the basis (which, my <i>dear</i> you do not enunciate entirely <i>clearly</i>, but which must be <i>implied</i>) that no one in Greeklawyer&#8217;s <i>audience</i> has a sense of:<br />
1. Irony<br />
2. Humour<br />
3. Balance<br />
they are <i>precisely</i> the same thing. Well <i>done</i> Stan!</p>
<p><i>Just</i> in case you do ever meet a human being, it is as well to <i>remember</i> that irony, humour and balance is what distinguishes us from the <i>Orang Utans</i>. But, Stan, providing you keep staring that mirror <i>straight</i> in the eyes, you have no need to <i>worry</i>.</p>
<p>Yours, <i>caringly</i></p>
<p>VM</p>
<p>P.S. Perhaps you could <i>attempt</i> to teach little Sam I Am to talk <i>properly</i>. If he has internet access he <i>really</i> should be past the stage of thinking it <i>big</i> to swear. <i>Do</i> take your parental responsibilities <i>seriously</i> Stan.</p>
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		<title>By: geeklawyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>geeklawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stan, I'd like to reply but MsR has threatned to kick me in the nuts if I reply to any more Blair Nutters. Being Australian I don't think the threat was a metaphorical one.

kthxbye</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stan, I&#8217;d like to reply but MsR has threatned to kick me in the nuts if I reply to any more Blair Nutters. Being Australian I don&#8217;t think the threat was a metaphorical one.</p>
<p>kthxbye</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GL, if your last post to me is indicative of your barrister skills, it's no wonder that you have so much time to spend on the bog (sorry, typo-error, I meant blog -  but the end product is roughly the same!).

As I said at "the other place", put-downs beget put-downs but you can still break the vicious cycle by doing the decent thing and just admit you got it very wrong on this one. Who knows, it might well count as a mitigating cicumstance come the day of reckoning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GL, if your last post to me is indicative of your barrister skills, it&#8217;s no wonder that you have so much time to spend on the bog (sorry, typo-error, I meant blog -  but the end product is roughly the same!).</p>
<p>As I said at &#8220;the other place&#8221;, put-downs beget put-downs but you can still break the vicious cycle by doing the decent thing and just admit you got it very wrong on this one. Who knows, it might well count as a mitigating cicumstance come the day of reckoning.</p>
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		<title>By: geeklawyer</title>
		<link>http://blog.geeklawyer.org/2008/02/11/ireprescable-as-ever-geeklawyer-returns/#comment-19503</link>
		<dc:creator>geeklawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stan,

You may well be able to &lt;b&gt;use&lt;/b&gt; the word causitry or even autistry the problem appears to be that, as an ill-educated oik, you don't appear to &lt;b&gt;understand&lt;/b&gt; it.

Nor it seems to appear capable of understand moon23's rather simple to understand arguments that shouting 'Fire' in a theatre &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; a defence if it is not believed, wasn't intended, wasn't reckless to and results in no panic injury death disaster nuclear war or sudden outbreak of lottery winnings.

And, for the nth+1 time, there was no such call nor have you shown that it was likely to be perceived as such.

Stan. Can I suggest that you go out and find a girlfriend? Or a boyfriend? Stalking me on this blog is both funny and funny but not healthy for you. I appreciate being bullied as a boy and sexually abused by your stepfather was painful, but put it all in the past and move on. Find new friends, ones who don't say: "Oh God, You! Er, hi Stan. How are you?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stan,</p>
<p>You may well be able to <b>use</b> the word causitry or even autistry the problem appears to be that, as an ill-educated oik, you don&#8217;t appear to <b>understand</b> it.</p>
<p>Nor it seems to appear capable of understand moon23&#8217;s rather simple to understand arguments that shouting &#8216;Fire&#8217; in a theatre <i>is</i> a defence if it is not believed, wasn&#8217;t intended, wasn&#8217;t reckless to and results in no panic injury death disaster nuclear war or sudden outbreak of lottery winnings.</p>
<p>And, for the nth+1 time, there was no such call nor have you shown that it was likely to be perceived as such.</p>
<p>Stan. Can I suggest that you go out and find a girlfriend? Or a boyfriend? Stalking me on this blog is both funny and funny but not healthy for you. I appreciate being bullied as a boy and sexually abused by your stepfather was painful, but put it all in the past and move on. Find new friends, ones who don&#8217;t say: &#8220;Oh God, You! Er, hi Stan. How are you?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A typical piece of casuistry (yes, us oiks CAN use words like that!) by Moon23 to dodge the point being made. To spell it out once again so that even YOU can understand it, "only joking, guv" is no defence if a cry of "Fire!" when there is no fire, results in an injury-inducing stampede. Neither does such a defence stand up if calls to kill Tony Blair tip some Islamist fanatic over the edge to do the deed. Geeky be warned!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A typical piece of casuistry (yes, us oiks CAN use words like that!) by Moon23 to dodge the point being made. To spell it out once again so that even YOU can understand it, &#8220;only joking, guv&#8221; is no defence if a cry of &#8220;Fire!&#8221; when there is no fire, results in an injury-inducing stampede. Neither does such a defence stand up if calls to kill Tony Blair tip some Islamist fanatic over the edge to do the deed. Geeky be warned!</p>
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		<title>By: geeklawyer</title>
		<link>http://blog.geeklawyer.org/2008/02/11/ireprescable-as-ever-geeklawyer-returns/#comment-19501</link>
		<dc:creator>geeklawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is an &lt;a href="http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/law/article3368163.ece" rel="nofollow"&gt;example &lt;/a&gt; of a man who but for luck would have been in Guantanamo. He was obviously guilty too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is an <a href="http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/law/article3368163.ece" rel="nofollow">example </a> of a man who but for luck would have been in Guantanamo. He was obviously guilty too.</p>
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		<title>By: moon23</title>
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		<dc:creator>moon23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crikey I’m not a lawyer, I’m far to principled for that! :) Last time I checked our Brains were not linked like the Borg, so I wouldn't use inductive reasoning to pass judgment on others debating skills from my humble contributions.

I didn't check back to see that you had put the clause that it was a joke, it's still a simplification of the situation though isn't it! My point B (above) highlights different types of speech.

Here let me give you an example:

QUICK RUN THERE IS A FIRE!!!

This sentence is unlikely to result in the stampede scenario as portrayed in your analogy because of a number of variable factors. The main factor is that it's written down and not shouted.

Within the specific context of an enclosed crowded space, where there is a risk of fire then shouting this would be irresponsible and dangerous. However you can't create a universalized law that you should ban shouting fire in a crowded theatre, because there might actually be a fire. You have to look at each case individually.

As far as I’m aware this is why incitement is a rather difficult charge to bring against people, as people have free will and agency, who can tell what has influenced them.

When written on a blog where you have time to digest the information and make your own decision. You also have to take into account the humors context in which the post was written.

The crowded theatre example becomes meaningless as soon as you start to examine the complexity of the example. Probably why the US supreme court didn't buy it as an argument when it was used to try and prosecute commies distributed literature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crikey I’m not a lawyer, I’m far to principled for that! <img src='http://blog.geeklawyer.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> Last time I checked our Brains were not linked like the Borg, so I wouldn&#8217;t use inductive reasoning to pass judgment on others debating skills from my humble contributions.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t check back to see that you had put the clause that it was a joke, it&#8217;s still a simplification of the situation though isn&#8217;t it! My point B (above) highlights different types of speech.</p>
<p>Here let me give you an example:</p>
<p>QUICK RUN THERE IS A FIRE!!!</p>
<p>This sentence is unlikely to result in the stampede scenario as portrayed in your analogy because of a number of variable factors. The main factor is that it&#8217;s written down and not shouted.</p>
<p>Within the specific context of an enclosed crowded space, where there is a risk of fire then shouting this would be irresponsible and dangerous. However you can&#8217;t create a universalized law that you should ban shouting fire in a crowded theatre, because there might actually be a fire. You have to look at each case individually.</p>
<p>As far as I’m aware this is why incitement is a rather difficult charge to bring against people, as people have free will and agency, who can tell what has influenced them.</p>
<p>When written on a blog where you have time to digest the information and make your own decision. You also have to take into account the humors context in which the post was written.</p>
<p>The crowded theatre example becomes meaningless as soon as you start to examine the complexity of the example. Probably why the US supreme court didn&#8217;t buy it as an argument when it was used to try and prosecute commies distributed literature.</p>
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