You can be thankful for life and do good for others in society without thinking it will score points with the divine being for an afterlife upgrade.

When you can look into your own life and feel that those things you have done to help others have indeed been appreciated by those others or thier social group, then does it matter if the rest of the world does not know?

Peace of mind - knowing you did the correct thing at that time.

By yhe way, who or what did create the creator?

Anyway I just say NO 2 ID.. (I’m such a wit)

1794 - English Anti-Recruitment Riots, (England)
1795 - English Food Riots, (England)
1811-1812 - English Luddite Riots, (Leicester/York, England)
1814 - English Luddite Riots of 1814, (Leicester/York, England)
1816 - English Luddite Riots of 1816, (Leicester/York, England)

skips a centuray or two

1979 - Southall Riots, (Southall, West London, England)
1981 - Brixton riot of 1981, (London, England)
1981 - Toxteth riots (Liverpool, England)
1981 - First Handsworth Riot, (Birmingham, England)
1985 - Brixton riot of 1985, Sept. 28, (London, England)
1985 - Second Handsworth Riot, Sept. 11, (Birmingham, England) 1985 - Broadwater Farm Riot, Oct. 6, (London, England)
1990 - Poll Tax Riots, (London)
1990 - Strangeways Riots, (London), April 1 - April 25
1995 - Brixton riot of 1995, (London, England)
1995 - Manningham Riot, June 1995, (Bradford, West Yorkshire, UK)
1999 - June 18th Anti-Capitalist Riot, June 1999 (London, UK)
2000 - Anti-Capitalist May Day Riots, May 2000 (London, UK)
2001 - Bradford Riot, July 2001, (Bradford, West Yorkshire, England)
2005 - Anti-G8 Riot, June 2005, (Edinburgh, Scotland, UK)

Yea we never riot in this country

“They don’t make the news quite so much as they are doing things, generally good or fun, for themselves and others. Happy in the fact they are doing good” - why do they need religion to do good? The answer, it seems, is that they only do good because it scores them points in the ‘afterlife’. Would it not be better to do good for purely altruistic reasons? If they do do good for altruistic reasons, then religion has nothing to do with it.

“When there is an explanation of how either the matter or the energy existed before the big bang, for that theory to work, I will then reconsider my theistic belief” - so just because science has not (yet) explained what happened before or caused the big bang (if indeed there was a ‘big bang’) the answer must be that god did it? Seems a pretty feeble argument to me, in the absence of any evidence for a ‘divine creator’. Who or what created the creator?

Having spent a bit of time in the States, I was rather startled at the level of unquestioning acceptance of information by the population outside of academic circles, which I can only put down to a certain style of education. Guess its easier to sell things to people who don’t ask too many questions: Coke, bottled tap water, wars etc etc.

Thank goodness that the British are a cynical lot. We seem to take it for granted that all politicians and advertisments lie but just resignedly accept this as the natural order of things, being disinclined to riot.

Yanks eh? They’ll be trying to tell us that the earth is flat next.

Think you went to the “whats it all for, we’re all going to die” school of bible bashing, you should have tried the “isn’t life beautiful, how can I make it better, thank god I am here to enjoy it” classes for happy people.

They don’t make the news quite so much as they are doing things, generally good or fun, for themselves and others. Happy in the fact they are doing good, they do not need the publicity of the bible bashing “you’ll all go to hell unless you give money to this church to save sinners”.

When there is an explanation of how either the matter or the energy existed before the big bang, for that theory to work, I will then reconsider my theistic belief.

Bunch of miserable souls who cling to their petty god in an attempt to stem the all consuming despair that will claim them in the end.