Comments on: Open wireless access http://blog.geeklawyer.org/2007/04/17/open-wireless-access/ A barrister gossips & rants on intellectual property law, the legal system and civil liberties. Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:59:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Help http://blog.geeklawyer.org/2007/04/17/open-wireless-access/#comment-9008 Help Thu, 10 May 2007 17:31:58 +0000 http://blog.geeklawyer.org/2007/04/17/open-wireless-access/#comment-9008 Hello, Not long ago, I had a problem at my jobsite. An employee had noticed a statment about a particular circumstance that envolved our company. However, my former boss is accusing me of the situation. I advised him that I had a unsecured wireless router and anyone could have used it by parking a car in front of my house while I was unaware of their of the activity. If this was happening and they were not using their home computer or library, then would I be able to find out who did this? If not, then what is the solution? Hello,

Not long ago, I had a problem at my jobsite. An employee had noticed a statment about a particular circumstance that envolved our company. However, my former boss is accusing me of the situation. I advised him that I had a unsecured wireless router and anyone could have used it by parking a car in front of my house while I was unaware of their of the activity. If this was happening and they were not using their home computer or library, then would I be able to find out who did this? If not, then what is the solution?

]]> By: Geeklawyer http://blog.geeklawyer.org/2007/04/17/open-wireless-access/#comment-4939 Geeklawyer Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:35:32 +0000 http://blog.geeklawyer.org/2007/04/17/open-wireless-access/#comment-4939 Oddly I agree with Ruthie. This is clearly the technique. I think she may be alluding to Benjamin Frankin (?) who said something like "those who sacrifice liberty for security will get neither'. Not completely true but significantly so. Oddly I agree with Ruthie. This is clearly the technique. I think she may be alluding to Benjamin Frankin (?) who said something like “those who sacrifice liberty for security will get neither’. Not completely true but significantly so.

]]> By: Charon QC http://blog.geeklawyer.org/2007/04/17/open-wireless-access/#comment-4934 Charon QC Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:32:55 +0000 http://blog.geeklawyer.org/2007/04/17/open-wireless-access/#comment-4934 Josephine.... of course, you are absolutely right.... In so far as i referred to consent...I was, clearly, talking complete nonsense in my comment - it can be fun sometimes - and I was 'distraught'... five England wickets fell in just 19 balls.... it was more than i could bear, M'Lud. http://blog.geeklawyer.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif Josephine…. of course, you are absolutely right…. In so far as i referred to consent…I was, clearly, talking complete nonsense in my comment - it can be fun sometimes - and I was ‘distraught’… five England wickets fell in just 19 balls…. it was more than i could bear, M’Lud. http://blog.geeklawyer.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

]]> By: James http://blog.geeklawyer.org/2007/04/17/open-wireless-access/#comment-4907 James Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:40:13 +0000 http://blog.geeklawyer.org/2007/04/17/open-wireless-access/#comment-4907 Well i'm not going to be losing any sleep over this 'threat'! Well i’m not going to be losing any sleep over this ‘threat’!

]]> By: Ruthie http://blog.geeklawyer.org/2007/04/17/open-wireless-access/#comment-4889 Ruthie Wed, 18 Apr 2007 11:56:52 +0000 http://blog.geeklawyer.org/2007/04/17/open-wireless-access/#comment-4889 I think Big Brother has been watching over us for some time now. The trick to stop people complaining is to keep them in Fear, the source of which doesnt matter overmuch: terrorists/paedophiles/nutters take your pick. And with modern surveillance techniques no need to bother with the hassle of running informants. Theres an argument that some liberty must be sacrificed for security. But its difficult to assess whether it is necessary and to what extent if the threat is misrepresented. I think Big Brother has been watching over us for some time now. The trick to stop people complaining is to keep them in Fear, the source of which doesnt matter overmuch: terrorists/paedophiles/nutters take your pick. And with modern surveillance techniques no need to bother with the hassle of running informants.

Theres an argument that some liberty must be sacrificed for security. But its difficult to assess whether it is necessary and to what extent if the threat is misrepresented.

]]> By: Josephine Bloggs http://blog.geeklawyer.org/2007/04/17/open-wireless-access/#comment-4882 Josephine Bloggs Wed, 18 Apr 2007 11:14:03 +0000 http://blog.geeklawyer.org/2007/04/17/open-wireless-access/#comment-4882 Yes, and Telescreens in every Party house... What with Ruthie's post yesterday, it looks like Nineteen Eighty-Four is upon us once again. Yes, and Telescreens in every Party house…

What with Ruthie’s post yesterday, it looks like Nineteen Eighty-Four is upon us once again.

]]> By: Kirit http://blog.geeklawyer.org/2007/04/17/open-wireless-access/#comment-4875 Kirit Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:38:41 +0000 http://blog.geeklawyer.org/2007/04/17/open-wireless-access/#comment-4875 I'm not sure that is the right analogy. Image if you have some land and the police find bomb making equipment there. If you had put a big fence around the land with guards it will be hard to convince anybody that the equipment isn't yours. If you leave the land open and unguarded then it is hard for anybody to prove that whatever they found was actually yours. I don't really know how this should be interpreted, I'm just saying it could be interpreted either way. Who's up for a test case? Or was there one already? I’m not sure that is the right analogy. Image if you have some land and the police find bomb making equipment there.

If you had put a big fence around the land with guards it will be hard to convince anybody that the equipment isn’t yours.

If you leave the land open and unguarded then it is hard for anybody to prove that whatever they found was actually yours.

I don’t really know how this should be interpreted, I’m just saying it could be interpreted either way. Who’s up for a test case? Or was there one already?

]]> By: James http://blog.geeklawyer.org/2007/04/17/open-wireless-access/#comment-4869 James Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:01:56 +0000 http://blog.geeklawyer.org/2007/04/17/open-wireless-access/#comment-4869 What we need is more CCTV cameras so the police can keep an eye on our streets to ensure no pedo's or evil terroists upto mischieve on our networks. What we need is more CCTV cameras so the police can keep an eye on our streets to ensure no pedo’s or evil terroists upto mischieve on our networks.

]]> By: Josephine Bloggs http://blog.geeklawyer.org/2007/04/17/open-wireless-access/#comment-4868 Josephine Bloggs Wed, 18 Apr 2007 08:48:10 +0000 http://blog.geeklawyer.org/2007/04/17/open-wireless-access/#comment-4868 So... if I leave all the doors and windows unlocked while I am in my house, am I deemed to have given tacit consent to the casual intruder helping himself to whatever he finds therein? :shock: So… if I leave all the doors and windows unlocked while I am in my house, am I deemed to have given tacit consent to the casual intruder helping himself to whatever he finds therein? :shock:

]]> By: Charon QC http://blog.geeklawyer.org/2007/04/17/open-wireless-access/#comment-4856 Charon QC Wed, 18 Apr 2007 06:40:50 +0000 http://blog.geeklawyer.org/2007/04/17/open-wireless-access/#comment-4856 Clearly... I know absolutely nothing of any practical value about criminal law - and I was 'overcome' by the cricket fiasco! Nearly legal... point noted about my IP address... better button down the hatches! Clearly… I know absolutely nothing of any practical value about criminal law - and I was ‘overcome’ by the cricket fiasco!

Nearly legal… point noted about my IP address… better button down the hatches!

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