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	<title>Comments on: Another reason to hate the Welsh</title>
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		<title>By: simplywondered</title>
		<link>http://blog.geeklawyer.org/2007/03/19/another-reason-to-hate-the-welsh/#comment-21362</link>
		<dc:creator>simplywondered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>don't think many of us spoke welsh in the north east - we had already learned so many useful phrases in norse ('please stop raping my mother' and 'errr i think that's my cow, oh well never mind urk' to name but 2) that we merely converted the rest of the otherwise sensible language into what now baffles the rest of the world as geordie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don&#8217;t think many of us spoke welsh in the north east - we had already learned so many useful phrases in norse (&#8217;please stop raping my mother&#8217; and &#8216;errr i think that&#8217;s my cow, oh well never mind urk&#8217; to name but 2) that we merely converted the rest of the otherwise sensible language into what now baffles the rest of the world as geordie.</p>
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		<title>By: Cwn Anwn</title>
		<link>http://blog.geeklawyer.org/2007/03/19/another-reason-to-hate-the-welsh/#comment-21357</link>
		<dc:creator>Cwn Anwn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 08:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who are these English you refer to? As I understand it Cumbric (Welsh) was spoken in many parts of what is now Northern England into the 11th Century. There was no displacement of populations, simply an adoption of a different language as the lingua franca. So are the English mostly derived from the Celts, the Angles, the Saxons, the Vikings, the Jutes, the Normans, the Asians, the Afro Caribbeans, the Polish, or some other wave of immigration? Or are you perhaps "defining the English as "those east of the severn estuary, west of the north sea and south of Hadrian's wall and North of the English Channel. Your assertion that the "fair English" are in some way more sophisticated and educated than "the Welsh" really made me laugh hard. Well done for producing such a risible piece of fiction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who are these English you refer to? As I understand it Cumbric (Welsh) was spoken in many parts of what is now Northern England into the 11th Century. There was no displacement of populations, simply an adoption of a different language as the lingua franca. So are the English mostly derived from the Celts, the Angles, the Saxons, the Vikings, the Jutes, the Normans, the Asians, the Afro Caribbeans, the Polish, or some other wave of immigration? Or are you perhaps &#8220;defining the English as &#8220;those east of the severn estuary, west of the north sea and south of Hadrian&#8217;s wall and North of the English Channel. Your assertion that the &#8220;fair English&#8221; are in some way more sophisticated and educated than &#8220;the Welsh&#8221; really made me laugh hard. Well done for producing such a risible piece of fiction.</p>
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		<title>By: Geeklawyer</title>
		<link>http://blog.geeklawyer.org/2007/03/19/another-reason-to-hate-the-welsh/#comment-21078</link>
		<dc:creator>Geeklawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"&lt;i&gt;All I see is a nation of fat, bald, overweight, badly-dressed, obese, greasy, pasty-faced, uneducated, xenophobic, homophobic, binge-drinking, emotionally repressed, middle-aged football obsessives&lt;/i&gt;"

"&lt;i&gt;...this pathetic, racist little rant of yours deserves to be treated with contempt...&lt;/i&gt;"

I am confused, which racist were we talking about?

&lt;i&gt;'Have you ever heard the phrase “people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones?” '&lt;/i&gt;
You have, but apparently is slipped from your memory in between writing three paragraphs: how long &lt;b&gt;did&lt;/b&gt; those paragraphs take you? Did the crayon break?, Mr Goldfish memory. 

Glad you liked it it though, I had you in mind - peace out :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<i>All I see is a nation of fat, bald, overweight, badly-dressed, obese, greasy, pasty-faced, uneducated, xenophobic, homophobic, binge-drinking, emotionally repressed, middle-aged football obsessives</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>&#8230;this pathetic, racist little rant of yours deserves to be treated with contempt&#8230;</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>I am confused, which racist were we talking about?</p>
<p><i>&#8216;Have you ever heard the phrase “people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones?” &#8216;</i><br />
You have, but apparently is slipped from your memory in between writing three paragraphs: how long <b>did</b> those paragraphs take you? Did the crayon break?, Mr Goldfish memory. </p>
<p>Glad you liked it it though, I had you in mind - peace out <img src='http://blog.geeklawyer.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: BetterLawyer</title>
		<link>http://blog.geeklawyer.org/2007/03/19/another-reason-to-hate-the-welsh/#comment-21077</link>
		<dc:creator>BetterLawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My God you are an arse, but where to begin?

"Geeklawyer has never been entirely sure why the Welsh are."

Since when do people need a reason to exist? Do the English have a reason to exist? Other than to frighten the rest of us with drunken football hooliganism?

"But it is despoiled by the retarded jealous spiteful bitter Hobbits who crawl on its surface: wart covered Homunculi whose loathsome existence is a foul, sulphurous wind in the nostrils of the fair English."

Have you ever heard the phrase "people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones?" No? Then allow me to demonstrate:

Who exactly are the 'fair English' you're talking about? All I see is a nation of fat, bald, overweight, badly-dressed, obese, greasy, pasty-faced, uneducated, xenophobic, homophobic, binge-drinking, emotionally repressed, middle-aged football obsessives dreaming of the distant glory days of the sixties (remember 1966?) or worse still their over-hyped empire which was responsible for the enslavement of millions of people and the deaths of many more. The 'fair English' that you refer to exist only in the pages of P.G. Wodehouse novels or worse still in overly sentimental Hollywood romance films, where the English is inevitable presented as a rich, bumbling, twit.

"Frankly Geeklawyer cannot see the point: the only person in Wales who can read, either Welsh or English, is a client of Geeklawyer’s and he is a Free Software fan and thusly not of mind to get patents. For everyone else it will be a bloody pointless exercise in providing a living for Welsh translators. Expensive and pointless. A bit like Geeklawyer really."

Frankly Geeklawyer doesn't know what the hell he is talking about, and furthermore hasn't realised that referring to oneself in the third person sounds moronic (there's a reason why Tarzan does it after all). The reason why the legislation to promote the Welsh language is needed is that the number of Welsh speakers had been declining for decades, however the introduction of this legislation has led to the first increase in the number of Welsh speakers for the best part of a century. The legislation has created an economic need for Welsh language skills and is a shining example of capitalist markets being used to promote and increase cultural diversity.

You may dress up your comments in pithy, witty language, but frankly prejudice is still prejudice no matter how you present it, and this pathetic, racist little rant of yours deserves to be treated with contempt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My God you are an arse, but where to begin?</p>
<p>&#8220;Geeklawyer has never been entirely sure why the Welsh are.&#8221;</p>
<p>Since when do people need a reason to exist? Do the English have a reason to exist? Other than to frighten the rest of us with drunken football hooliganism?</p>
<p>&#8220;But it is despoiled by the retarded jealous spiteful bitter Hobbits who crawl on its surface: wart covered Homunculi whose loathsome existence is a foul, sulphurous wind in the nostrils of the fair English.&#8221;</p>
<p>Have you ever heard the phrase &#8220;people who live in glass houses shouldn&#8217;t throw stones?&#8221; No? Then allow me to demonstrate:</p>
<p>Who exactly are the &#8216;fair English&#8217; you&#8217;re talking about? All I see is a nation of fat, bald, overweight, badly-dressed, obese, greasy, pasty-faced, uneducated, xenophobic, homophobic, binge-drinking, emotionally repressed, middle-aged football obsessives dreaming of the distant glory days of the sixties (remember 1966?) or worse still their over-hyped empire which was responsible for the enslavement of millions of people and the deaths of many more. The &#8216;fair English&#8217; that you refer to exist only in the pages of P.G. Wodehouse novels or worse still in overly sentimental Hollywood romance films, where the English is inevitable presented as a rich, bumbling, twit.</p>
<p>&#8220;Frankly Geeklawyer cannot see the point: the only person in Wales who can read, either Welsh or English, is a client of Geeklawyer’s and he is a Free Software fan and thusly not of mind to get patents. For everyone else it will be a bloody pointless exercise in providing a living for Welsh translators. Expensive and pointless. A bit like Geeklawyer really.&#8221;</p>
<p>Frankly Geeklawyer doesn&#8217;t know what the hell he is talking about, and furthermore hasn&#8217;t realised that referring to oneself in the third person sounds moronic (there&#8217;s a reason why Tarzan does it after all). The reason why the legislation to promote the Welsh language is needed is that the number of Welsh speakers had been declining for decades, however the introduction of this legislation has led to the first increase in the number of Welsh speakers for the best part of a century. The legislation has created an economic need for Welsh language skills and is a shining example of capitalist markets being used to promote and increase cultural diversity.</p>
<p>You may dress up your comments in pithy, witty language, but frankly prejudice is still prejudice no matter how you present it, and this pathetic, racist little rant of yours deserves to be treated with contempt.</p>
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		<title>By: simply wondered</title>
		<link>http://blog.geeklawyer.org/2007/03/19/another-reason-to-hate-the-welsh/#comment-18220</link>
		<dc:creator>simply wondered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>your apols are noted and accepted, geekboy. 
the cymraeg, however, will be less easy to pacify...the spirit of glyndwr lives on! (a westminster-trained lawyer just so's ya know, as well as immortal messaiah)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>your apols are noted and accepted, geekboy.<br />
the cymraeg, however, will be less easy to pacify&#8230;the spirit of glyndwr lives on! (a westminster-trained lawyer just so&#8217;s ya know, as well as immortal messaiah)</p>
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		<title>By: Fink Floyd</title>
		<link>http://blog.geeklawyer.org/2007/03/19/another-reason-to-hate-the-welsh/#comment-18214</link>
		<dc:creator>Fink Floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 00:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off - good blog, it's nice to read some comment on the law that's slightly more prepared to express an opinion (and is thus more interesting) than much of what I see from day to day.

Slightly disappointing, however, is a pop at the Welsh language - I'm assuming that it's tongue-in-cheek, so I'm not rising to it (we, as the Welsh, do make it woefully easy for the English to take the piss about this subject - the spluttering you hear is probably not somebody trying to speak Welsh, it's a Welsh speaker starting to froth at the mouth because something along these lines has got up his nose).  On the subject, however; why *shouldn't* things be bilingual?  You wouldn't get het-up about having to render things in French if you were in France, or German in Germany - what's the difference here?  Saying that 'but you all understand English' doesn't cut it - so do most of the French and the Germans.

Could it be that Mr Geeklawyer's reaction is coloured by a traumatic childhood memory of a bad experience with one of Aberystwyth's copious Welsh weirdos?

And it's 'Prifysgol Cymru'.  Nitwits.   :wink:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off - good blog, it&#8217;s nice to read some comment on the law that&#8217;s slightly more prepared to express an opinion (and is thus more interesting) than much of what I see from day to day.</p>
<p>Slightly disappointing, however, is a pop at the Welsh language - I&#8217;m assuming that it&#8217;s tongue-in-cheek, so I&#8217;m not rising to it (we, as the Welsh, do make it woefully easy for the English to take the piss about this subject - the spluttering you hear is probably not somebody trying to speak Welsh, it&#8217;s a Welsh speaker starting to froth at the mouth because something along these lines has got up his nose).  On the subject, however; why *shouldn&#8217;t* things be bilingual?  You wouldn&#8217;t get het-up about having to render things in French if you were in France, or German in Germany - what&#8217;s the difference here?  Saying that &#8216;but you all understand English&#8217; doesn&#8217;t cut it - so do most of the French and the Germans.</p>
<p>Could it be that Mr Geeklawyer&#8217;s reaction is coloured by a traumatic childhood memory of a bad experience with one of Aberystwyth&#8217;s copious Welsh weirdos?</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s &#8216;Prifysgol Cymru&#8217;.  Nitwits.   <img src='http://blog.geeklawyer.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=':wink:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Geeklawyer</title>
		<link>http://blog.geeklawyer.org/2007/03/19/another-reason-to-hate-the-welsh/#comment-18212</link>
		<dc:creator>Geeklawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sorry SW, since Nobody didn't deign to reply (that snotty git) I thought I'd try to be helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sorry SW, since Nobody didn&#8217;t deign to reply (that snotty git) I thought I&#8217;d try to be helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: simply wondered</title>
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		<dc:creator>simply wondered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMPORTANT: PLEASE NOBODY TELL ME WHAT PERL IS

is that so hard to understand??? are you charging me for that information? you don't have that many posters you can start by hacking off a new one. or are you an uncaring radical? (that goes SO well with ip lawyer)
think i will register (now that's a real techno challege for me) - i like being randomly abusive with you. also i want evil dave to be my friend so i can say 'ah yes a friend of mine writes perl ya know...'</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMPORTANT: PLEASE NOBODY TELL ME WHAT PERL IS</p>
<p>is that so hard to understand??? are you charging me for that information? you don&#8217;t have that many posters you can start by hacking off a new one. or are you an uncaring radical? (that goes SO well with ip lawyer)<br />
think i will register (now that&#8217;s a real techno challege for me) - i like being randomly abusive with you. also i want evil dave to be my friend so i can say &#8216;ah yes a friend of mine writes perl ya know&#8230;&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Geeklawyer</title>
		<link>http://blog.geeklawyer.org/2007/03/19/another-reason-to-hate-the-welsh/#comment-18210</link>
		<dc:creator>Geeklawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah. Evil Dave has an entirely different meaning to me: Mr Cantrell, Geek, Perl hacker extraordinaire and commentator on this blog and his own http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/journal/index.pl.

Nothing to do with Cameron who isn't evil so much as a 

public relations exercise.

You can avoid answering spam question if you register as a user: it would be nice to have someone other than all the "getviagracheap@mail.ru" type registrations. I have to delete this and I'm getting a bit fucked off with it.

Perl is a computer scripting language. http://www.unix.org.ua/orelly/perl/perlnut/ch04_01.htm. I use the word &lt;em&gt;language&lt;/em&gt; in a technical sense only. It is a random collection of symbols which only the author and the computer can understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah. Evil Dave has an entirely different meaning to me: Mr Cantrell, Geek, Perl hacker extraordinaire and commentator on this blog and his own <a href="http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/journal/index.pl" rel="nofollow">http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/journal/index.pl</a>.</p>
<p>Nothing to do with Cameron who isn&#8217;t evil so much as a </p>
<p>public relations exercise.</p>
<p>You can avoid answering spam question if you register as a user: it would be nice to have someone other than all the &#8220;getviagracheap@mail.ru&#8221; type registrations. I have to delete this and I&#8217;m getting a bit fucked off with it.</p>
<p>Perl is a computer scripting language. <a href="http://www.unix.org.ua/orelly/perl/perlnut/ch04_01.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.unix.org.ua/orelly/perl/perlnut/ch04_01.htm</a>. I use the word <em>language</em> in a technical sense only. It is a random collection of symbols which only the author and the computer can understand.</p>
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		<title>By: simply wondered</title>
		<link>http://blog.geeklawyer.org/2007/03/19/another-reason-to-hate-the-welsh/#comment-18209</link>
		<dc:creator>simply wondered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'I am consciously and unapologetically discriminating against the disnumic as they deserved to be driven from the face of the Earth.'

and you like an adverb. i think it has been proved somewhere that the welsh language invented adverbs - and had them nicked by the bloody english, naturally.

my concern at 'actus reus' is that it really doesn't look like any latin i know. i can't believe that such an obviously right-thinking chap as evil dave (mr cameron to us) can fail to be worried too.

hmm - notes nervous glances on faces of fellow law students as he removes shoes to answer spam protection question - do we count toes??? guesses at 13...


IMPORTANT: PLEASE NOBODY TELL ME WHAT PERL IS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;I am consciously and unapologetically discriminating against the disnumic as they deserved to be driven from the face of the Earth.&#8217;</p>
<p>and you like an adverb. i think it has been proved somewhere that the welsh language invented adverbs - and had them nicked by the bloody english, naturally.</p>
<p>my concern at &#8216;actus reus&#8217; is that it really doesn&#8217;t look like any latin i know. i can&#8217;t believe that such an obviously right-thinking chap as evil dave (mr cameron to us) can fail to be worried too.</p>
<p>hmm - notes nervous glances on faces of fellow law students as he removes shoes to answer spam protection question - do we count toes??? guesses at 13&#8230;</p>
<p>IMPORTANT: PLEASE NOBODY TELL ME WHAT PERL IS</p>
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